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今晚 無線收費電視 直播,正
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chanpo1974 發表於 2017-7-27 13:02
用做水魚而唔係成績來證明球隊係爭標分子? 不敢苟同..... (咁無好球員又怎成爭標份子, 你自問現時有邊隊 ...

我又唔覺買賣球員需要做水魚才能證明什麼,更唔覺施古臣係不可替代的球員,我也支持愛隊二十幾年,依家都就到知天命的年齡,呢度的師兄唔少都係二三十年的愛隊球迷,我支持球隊固然想佢捧杯,但捧唔到冠軍我一樣支持,無論球會窮富。每個師兄都可能有唔同的想法,尤其對球會的執教,他們提出的意見我覺都係善意的,也並非毫無道理。首先我認同球會係因為people club,唔係純粹為賺錢,只要球會唔離棄呢個宗旨就可以,但不可否認,我不喜歡朗奴高文的執教風格,如果係現實生活遇到這種人我會敬而遠之,因為佢應該係一個主觀和未必喜歡講道理的人。
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Forever_Fan 發表於 2017-7-27 13:45
我又唔覺買賣球員需要做水魚才能證明什麼,更唔覺施古臣係不可替代的球員,我也支持愛隊二十幾年,依家都 ...

佢唔係唔講道理嘅
相反,係做嘢嘅時候太講理性嗰面,而好少感情用事,同埋講嘢唔會轉彎抹角
如果俾著係馬仔still in charge,佢又點會直接鬧Barkley,點會恨心放棄Niasse
有好有唔好啦,如果感情用事,就會好似馬仔咁死攬啲契仔
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nsno 發表於 2017-7-27 14:14
佢唔係唔講道理嘅
相反,係做嘢嘅時候太講理性嗰面,而好少感情用事,同埋講嘢唔會轉彎抹角
如果俾著係馬 ...

完全係兩個唔同風格既領隊
就好似費格遜同雲加咁
不過講到尾都係要用成績去肯定自己
特別係呢個年代
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Forever_Fan 發表於 2017-7-27 13:45
我又唔覺買賣球員需要做水魚才能證明什麼,更唔覺施古臣係不可替代的球員,我也支持愛隊二十幾年,依家都 ...

當MOUSSA SISSOKO需要熱刺動用3000萬鎊既時候咁會唔會開心少少?  熱刺做過, 車做過, 阿仙奴做過, 曼城利狗更加唔駛講, 甚至史篤城買BERAHINO都做過.  

施格臣無錯並不是不可替代, 只係佢優點亦唔係個個球員都做到.  前至SS FALSE 9, 退一格左翼右翼正攻中, 再退一格左中右中甚至BOX TO BOX(未印證過但我認為佢打到), VERSATILE到咁既程度, 唔係物超所值但都係合乎價值.  咁1000萬水魚價咪比人囉.

再講教頭都有風格, 費蛇, 雲加, 光頭佬甚至普捷天奴都係差唔多類型.  如果太"林善"又會話柏歷堅尼振唔住更衣室, 太注重溝通又話"馬天尼斯OUT".......將心比己教頭都要威信同威嚴, 球員唔聽話佢都係冇飯碗~~

"When the Glazers and David Gill agreed to a big increase in Wayne Rooney's salary in 2010, they wanted to know how I felt,” Ferguson said.

“I did not think it fair that Rooney should earn twice what I made and Joel Glazer immediately said, 'I totally agree with you but what should we do?'

“It was simple. We just agreed that no player should be paid more than me.

I'm Evertonian since 1986-87 season!  COYB~~~
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我捧左愛華頓今年踏入第三十四個年頭
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Forever_Fan 發表於 2017-7-27 13:45
我又唔覺買賣球員需要做水魚才能證明什麼,更唔覺施古臣係不可替代的球員,我也支持愛隊二十幾年,依家都 ...

雖則愛華頓降班我們老球迷一樣支持, 但有機會發圍而不去嘗試會有點可惜, 始終愛華頓低迷多年,
難得現新老闆肯出錢出力, 找了RK回來教, RK給人印象是不好,
但我總覺得能拿冠軍的教頭都是有自己原則, 不會容易給別人影響而改變,
你看摩佬/費SIR/干地, 有哪一個不是一意孤行, 總之就放手給RK幹一場,
就算失敗都總比有機會而不試的好, 始終足球都是一種爭勝的運動,
而施古臣不是不可替代的球員, 但球季快開始, 從現實角度看, 現巴克里証實100%離隊,
所以怪不得RK一直不放棄買施古臣, 現市場上有實力合用及肯來愛華頓根本沒什麼選擇.


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最痛恨一直俾利狗恥笑我地 chanpo 兄
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愛華寶寶 發表於 2017-7-27 10:57
呢條光頭佬?不如出比錫好過

流料居多,唔似會買的人選,可能同馬天拿差唔多水平,同意出比錫可能重好。
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本帖最後由 Forever_Fan 於 2017-7-27 16:08 編輯

In this article, I would like to discuss five other options for the club, ranging from a value buy from the continental bargain bin to dream scenarios and wild cards. These are just a few of the options available, because frankly Ross Barkley isn’t that hard to replace.

1) Emre Colak | Deportivo La Coruna

A viable option would be someone like Emre Colak from Deportivo La Coruna.

In 2477 minutes last season, Colak produced 2.6 key passes per 90. Out of those, 1.1 were from dead ball situations, which is extremely proficient, 1.5 were from crosses, so this would definitely be a creative option out wide.

While certainly a diversion from the tactical setup Ronald Koeman used last season, it would add a new element to the offense in open play while also improving the Blues’ poor set piece performance.

Colak completed 50% of his dribbles, which isn’t going to set the world on fire, but keep in mind we are talking about a player valued on Transfermarkt at €7.5 million. Truly a bargain, at 26 years old, he would have many years to contribute to the squad.

2) Max Meyer | Schalke 04

Meyer is an interesting one, because if you simply go off his Bundesliga stats, he’s not an overly convincing creative force. 1.6 key passes per 90 doesn’t blow you away.

However, you soon realize that hardly any of those key passes were from set piece situations, which gives you much more reason to be optimistic. In the Europa League, Meyer actually had great success from dead balls and got his per 90 number up to 2.3.

Koeman would probably not ask him to take many free kicks at Everton so what remains is a very balanced and respectable creative force. I know, I know, he’s only got one assist from last year, but when you’re measuring creative ability, that’s not the important number.

Back to Meyer, one assist does seem horrible, however, he’s consistently creating chances in open play, and that is the kind of thing that will improve with a better team around him (and Everton is significantly more talented than Schalke). That ability can shine with the Toffees.

The 21 year old is appraised at €14m by Transfermarkt, but he’d probably cost somewhere in the 20s in the real market given his age. On this one, you gotta look at the little things to see the potential amidst the dumpster fire of a season Schalke had last year.

3)  Felipe Anderson | Lazio

Honestly, I liked Jonathan Viera here, but we said we were trying to think outside the box, and as mentioned, we have written on Viera already (here it is again if you want to look).

In the process of researching this article I did a deep dive into Anderson’s statistics and was blown away. Anderson is only 24 years old, valued at €25m by Transfermarkt (he would probably cost more like €35m), and has played over 2000 league minutes in three straight seasons, including 2919 last year.

In the last three years, Anderson has 21 goals and 20 assists. He averaged 2.3 key passes per game in 2016/17, virtually all from open play. He succeeds in 55% of his dribbles, which is very strong considering he attempts 6.5 per 90. He is an incredibly well rounded winger and someone who can be part of this Everton project long term.

4)  Julian Brandt | Bayer Leverkusen

Julian Brandt is 21 years old, and looks set for a long future on the German national team. He’s rated at €20m by Transfermarkt, but would probably cost more than double that. He averaged 2 key passes per 90 last campaign, and while he needs to make better decisions about when to dribble he did complete 2.8 of them a game last year. Brandt is still growing into his game but he has all the tools to be a major star - personally, I think he could be Arjen Robben in his prime levels of good.

5)  Hatem Ben Arfa | Paris Saint Germain

Ben Arfa is a lunatic. Some guys just aren’t quite balanced upstairs, and he’s one of them. Honestly, I’m kind of concerned as to how his personality would mesh with a no nonsense professional like Koeman.

That said, the talent there is real. Ben Arfa averaged 2.6 key passes per 90, 1.9 of them from open play, and he averages 6.2 successful dribbles per 90 minutes. That’s not a typo - 6.2. He got that 6.2 with a 70% success rate, too.

When it comes to skinning people alive on the move very few people on planet earth do it as well as Ben Arfa. He’s crazy, he’s older (30), but the Frenchman would probably be extremely cheap given the attacking talent PSG is trying to buy.


呢篇野係提出除施古臣外,和避免係英超搵替代人選,所以選擇係有局限性。

第1個數據幾靚仔,攻中和左右翼都打得,但係身型好單薄,未必適合英超。第二個和第四個明顯唔係即食,屬於潛力新秀。第3個我幾欣賞,同施古臣一樣,屬於多面手的球員,左右翼攻中前鋒全部都掂,助攻數據都靚仔,雖然24歲仔,但場上經驗豐富,我覺得幾適合。最後第5個年紀有點大了。
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